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  • #39002
    Victoria RoseVictoria Rose
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    I have noticed that most of the responses that are against a physician only site have been posted by non-physicians. As a physician myself, I would like to defend this proposal. There are many issues that are not even relevant to non-physicians that need to be discussed whethor or not confidentiality is an issue. Even at the physician only site, an identity can be disguised. As was evidenced by some of the replies, sensitivity and understanding to many of the problems faced by physicians may only be understood by other physicians. Of course, every one is entitled to their opinion, but when one is only thinking about oneself when giving it, the opinion is much less helpful to others.

    There are many issues that need to be discussed in a delicate and sensitive matter, and perhaps one may feel more at ease to discuss these issues when one knows it will be discussed among peers and it will be given the consideration it deserves without others looking at as “griping”.

    #39003
    MomMDMomMD
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    Just throwing another idea out here!! 😀

    How about if MomMD members really exercised a code of conduct (which already exists), that states that by using the forum for physicians, if you aren’t a physician you will not post any questions about premed or student issues? If we all respect each others forums, then we all benefit from reading them.

    Also, the reason that the forums come across as having a strong student focus is because so many students post. Our physician and resident members could really make their presence known and become an active part of the site by posting more. There have been several threads in this forum asking “physicians to speak up” or similar. More frequent posting will give you a better sense of ownership of the forum and make you feel part of a larger group of women physicians. I’m not sure how receptive the other websites for physicians only are to woman relevant discussions, but this is what makes MomMD special as about 99% of us are women! By the way, did you know that the highest percentage of our members used to be premeds and it is now physicians!

    Just another perspective. To balance out I have received two private emails asking me to keep the forums closed to non-physicians. If you want them closed, please feel free to post and share your opinion!

    Sethina :goodvibes:

    #39004
    kiddiestatdockiddiestatdoc
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    Sethina and all,

    I support the physician only forum changes that you suggest. No time to write more on it…..

    #39005
    KimyaKimya
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    Wow, looks like this is still open for debate after all! Lots of interesting responses. I had two thoughts:

    1) Sethina, I wonder if there could be a compromise, where the physicians forum would be read-only for non-physicians, ie only physicians can post.

    2) I am trying to understand better what sorts of things are so sensitive that you have to be credentialed as a physician to read it, and am having a difficult time- can someone help me? Aside from a couple of negative posts on this section, this community, whether premed or student or physician, seems to be very supportive of each other and our goals. Although I am not a physician, I work in a sensitive area so understand some concerns about privacy. Howver, I would not feel any more comfortable posting more details in a protected section in my area, for example, simply because I do not know who is reading it. Even if they need to provide credentials to get the initial logon, there is no guarantee that that person is the one actually reading the posts. There is also no guarantee that just because a person has a certain credential that they will be more understanding and sensitive.

    Thanks-

    #39006
    MD mother of 2MD mother of 2
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    This is in reply to the question as to whether a physicians forum should be made available exclusively to physicians. This is so nit-picky! Are you expected to check the physicians’ credentials? Are they really licensed physicians? Or did they graduate from medical school? MD? DO? This is all wrong. MY OPINION IS THAT THE FORUM SHOULD STAY THE WAY IT IS. I graduated from medical school in 1985, yet I still remember how in-the-dark I was about medicine, life as a pre-med/medical student/intern/resident/young physician looking for work. I think it is very important that non-physicians have access to the forum, if for nothing else than to gain knowledge from the discourse which occurs. I wish I had had such a forum when I was a pre-med or medical student…perhaps I would have initially adjusted better to the expectations of such students had I known that everybody else had gone through the same grueling experiences. Perhaps I would have picked a better internship…or a different specialty. A person can never be overly informed. If a few individuals find it discouraging and they decide not to pursue a medical career, perhaps it is best they find out now rather than after being a $100,000 or so in debt for college loans and be forced to stay in a profession they hate (perhaps one of the causes of burn-out). Luckily I have no debts and never did…I’m one of the lucky few (my mother & grandmother came by the money the hard way…my internship year I made more money than my mother had EVER made in a years time). NO, I AM OPPOSED TO LIMITING ACCESS TO THE PHYSICIANS FORUM. One thought is, perhaps everybody should have access to read it, but only physicians could write replies; I’m not too keen on that idea either, as sometimes input or questions of non-physicians may be likewise important. LET’S LEAVE THINGS AS THEY ARE! Don’t mess with a good thing. Thanks for listening.

    #39007
    MD mother of 2MD mother of 2
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    This is in reply to the question as to whether a physicians forum should be made available exclusively to physicians. This is so nit-picky! Are you expected to check the physicians’ credentials? Are they really licensed physicians? Or did they graduate from medical school? MD? DO? This is all wrong. MY OPINION IS THAT THE FORUM SHOULD STAY THE WAY IT IS. I graduated from medical school in 1985, yet I still remember how in-the-dark I was about medicine, life as a pre-med/medical student/intern/resident/young physician looking for work. I think it is very important that non-physicians have access to the forum, if for nothing else than to gain knowledge from the discourse which occurs. I wish I had had such a forum when I was a pre-med or medical student…perhaps I would have initially adjusted better to the expectations of such students had I known that everybody else had gone through the same grueling experiences. Perhaps I would have picked a better internship…or a different specialty. A person can never be overly informed. If a few individuals find it discouraging and they decide not to pursue a medical career, perhaps it is best they find out now rather than after being a $100,000 or so in debt for college loans and be forced to stay in a profession they hate (perhaps one of the causes of burn-out). Luckily I have no debts and never did…I’m one of the lucky few (my mother & grandmother came by the money the hard way…my internship year I made more money than my mother had EVER made in a years time). NO, I AM OPPOSED TO LIMITING ACCESS TO THE PHYSICIANS FORUM. One thought is, perhaps everybody should have access to read it, but only physicians could write replies; I’m not too keen on that idea either, as sometimes input or questions of non-physicians may be likewise important. LET’S LEAVE THINGS AS THEY ARE! Don’t mess with a good thing. Thanks for listening.

    #39008
    DrSleepDrSleep
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    Just a note:
    I like checking the post of the physicians forum because it is difficult to find sometimes other women physicians around to talk to. Once in the career there are other concerns different than the ones during the pre med and med school ones. But at the same time I do check on other forums, mostly Family and Parenting and General discussions. If there are questions over there from students or residents I do reply if I can give some advice, suggestion or share my experience. I think that what will end up happening is that the physicians that do not go to other forums will end up not comming here either if it turns into a premed-residency discussion. If the worry is about getting questions answered from physicians to students/residents why not open a new forum just for that :Questions for the physicians. But my experience is that those questions are already asked in the General discussion forum.
    Hope this input helps,
    Dana

    #39009
    nucmedrulesnucmedrules
    Participant

    Frankly, I think that you will lose a lot if you restrict access. If privacy is a problem, there are several other ways to address the issue, as noted above.

    I am less familiar with this website than with that of my speciality (Aunt Minnie.com), but that one does seem to work quite well without any imposed restrictions. Alternate names are common with true names being VERY rare. Yes, this can lead to some unrestrained language and comments, but much of that seems to be restricted to the board designated for residents. The advice tends to be very useful.

    #39010
    rugratdocrugratdoc
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    :twocents: let me please throw my 2 cents in.
    As a physician, I wouldnt mind having a physician only forum for the above stated reasons vocalized by prior physicians. However; having this forum would in no way limit my visits to other forums and I will still be able to provide mentorship.

    #39011
    ElisabethElisabeth
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    At the risk of being redundant, I just wanted to echo many of the above sentiments…

    Keep the forum open to all. I can’t see why permitting- even encouraging some physcians to post anonymously and/or utilize the prvate messaging feature doesn’t alleviate any and all concerns about privacy.

    Removing this invaluable component of the forums from public availability would sadden me, but would also likely remove much of my incentive for reading the postings as frequently as I do.

    To the physicians, the day-in day-out babble isn’t boring us, it’s helping us have a more clear picture of exactly what we are getting outselves into. Your contributions to this site are vital, and it would be a real tragedy to not continue to share… even IF anonymously…

    #39012
    ElisabethElisabeth
    Participant

    That was my :twocents: But then again…

    maybe I’ll feel differently once I am a physician.

    But I hope not… :crossfingers:

    #39013
    snssns
    Participant

    Some other sites allow users to post with their name or with an anonymous ID (POL is one). You can switch back and forth as often as you like. On MomMD, you can only post with your one username. Maybe if users had the option to post with their user name or an anonymous ID, people would be more comfortable.

    This would allow users to post with their current user name when they are comfortable with the topic. If a topic came up that they wanted to comment on anonymously, they could just switch to their anonymous ID. On POL, when you post you have the option to check a box that says “post anonymously”. If you check it, your anonymous ID is shown instead of your user name.

    Their have been times that I wanted to post a response to a question using an example involving a patient, colleague, or family member but did not post because I didn’t want that person revealed. Theoretically, if you know who I am from my user ID, you might be able to figure out who my patient is or who my family member is. If I had the option to occasionally post with an anonymous ID, it would be harder for you to figure out who that patient or family member is.

    #39014
    MomMDMomMD
    Participant

    Sns,

    I do not think that the forums do have that capability – BUT we could go the complete opposite and make posting in the forums open to those without a user ID (you can name whatever you want to be, OR log in and use your ID). This is basically the same as what you’re describing!

    I think this is a GREAT idea!

    Sethina

    #39015
    2Himweowe2Himweowe
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    I think that physicians desreve to have a forum to serve their needs. If the concern is that that information is shared openly with others, then maybe someone can post excepts from the forum to another forum with the approval of the writer.

    #39016
    LindseyLindsey
    Participant

    The messages that I read with the most interest are the physician forums, because insight into the world that awaits is very relevant to the paths I choose today as a medical student. While a restricted site for physicians may benefit some, many of us would not have access to some of the most valuable information on this site.

    Lindsey
    M2

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